Ok I see your point even if I do not agree. I think there is a legitimate and interesting choice between spending 23k on a carbon frame using standard allow wheels vs a better speced alloy bike with light carbon wheels (and nice hubs).The main benefit of my wheels are not the rim (I can't really say that I feel much of a difference in the alloy S35 and the carbon S35 on the Ibis hub)
The main feel difference comes from the crazy fast engagement that come from the I9 hydro hubs. And I am yet to find one of those for SEK10K
'If you know of a retailer with i9 Hydra with 35mm wide carbon rim for that price, please let me know. I am on the market :)
And I did understand the question. My point was that it would be so unlikely to have one of those in the real world that it would be a exercise for the sake of it. Putting the alloy wheels on my bike would make more sense.
I tent to try to compare real world things that are likely to be a choice someone is to pose themselves.
i.e.: if everything else on the bike are the same (NGX kit, same wheels etc...) are the SEK23,7K difference between the v4 and AF money well spent for most people just for a carbon frame and factory suspension.
And my answer to that particular question is a resounding "no".
My recommendation is that unless you really go for it with XO1 level kits and carbon rims on really nice hubs, you are better served buying the AF and spend the rest on coaching lesson ;)
I have not used hydra hubs, so I dont know about these but I would rather go for Newmen carbon wheels with dt 350 hubs with a 54 ratchet (have a 54 rachtet now and I do not need addtional engagement points). In addtion to DT 350 with a 54 rachet beeing much more affordable it is also much quieter. Really do not like the sound of the hydra hubs. If I were to spend much chash on a fancy hub I would go for something as quiet as possible.